Grizzly bear is the sub species of brown bear and it is mainly found in northern USA (Alaska) and Canada. An adult male grizzly bear can weigh around 340 kg with the shoulder height of 3 ft 6 inch to 4 ft 1 inch and the head & body length is ranging from 7 ft 1 inch to 7 ft 8 inch.
African Lion the apex predator of African jungle is found in sub Saharan Africa, it is one of the dangerous predators in the world which can weigh up to 180 kg with the body length of 6 ft 1 inch including head and the shoulder height can be vary from 3 ft 4 inch to 3 ft 8 inch.
Male African lion has the mane which makes him the King of all animals in the jungle.
Grizzly bear known to be prey on musk deer, white tailed deer, birds, salmon fishes and some time black bear also whereas African lion mainly prey on deer, antelope, wildebeest, zebra, impala and wild buffaloes. Comparing both animals prey we have a conclusion that lion preys are more difficult and dangerous than grizzly bear like wild buffaloes but these are almost done by the lioness so it is interesting to know how African lion deals with Grizzly bear.
Before going further let’s take a glance at characteristics and information of lion vs grizzly in below given a table on African lion vs Grizzly bear comparison.
African Lion vs Grizzly Bear Comparison:
|Animals||African Lion||Grizzly Bear|
|Average Head & Body Length||6 ft 1 inch||7 ft 8 inch|
|Shoulder Height||3 ft 8 inch||4 ft 1 inch|
|Average Weight||180 kg||340 kg|
|Area||Africa||USA and Canada|
|Average Life Span||15 years||25 years|
Winning Facts for Both African Lion and Grizzly Bear:
African lion muscles are stronger than grizzly bear.
Grizzly is taller, longer and heavier than African lion.
African Lion is the better fighter and hunter than grizzly, as he has to face bigger challenges for its food in African jungle. Male lions help the pride when lionesses is unable to takedown the bigger prey like wild buffaloes and on the other side grizzly always prey on easy and small animals (big animals rarely if found in surroundings).
Grizzly paws are bigger than those of African lion and helps him to swipe stronger while fighting with its competitor.
Grizzly can stands on its hind legs for a long time while African lion can stand and this is the very big advantage for grizzly.
African male lion has the mane which protects its neck from the heavy swipe from grizzly bear.
Grizzly bear posses so much fat which help him to get rid of lion paw swipes and grip.
There are many such cases where grizzly bear completely dominated the male African lion in zoo as well as in circus also, one of the incident was happen in circus where grizzly bear kill the African lion in just a few minutes only with its paw swipes. After the death of lion his face was badly wounded with the grizzly powerful swipes and according to doctors report it was said that grizzly paw swipes were gone into the lion’s skull which cause him to death immediately.
Grizzly bear can fight till their death which makes him the true dangerous predator in the world which lion or other big predators can’t do.
Head to Head Fight:
Grizzly bear will always win in head to head fight with African lion because grizzlies are stronger, taller, and heavier. They also have the bigger paws with stronger deadly swipes than lion, though they are smaller than polar bear but still they are the stronger and dangerous than all other bears in the world.
In your comparisons section you have a “Force” category. In the battle lion vs grizzly. you give the lion a 5 and the grizzly a 4. In the tiger vs grizzly you give the tiger 5 and the grizzly 4. In the lion vs tiger, lion 4 and tiger 5. I don’t understand your force category. A grizzly bear is stronger than both of the cats. So what is your force category measuring? In a fight the grizzly should take down the lion. The tiger and the grizzly would be an awesome fight. The tiger’s intelligence may win out in this battle though. If the tiger can be evasive enough to land the killing blow, it can win. The tiger cannot just go toe to toe in front of the stronger heavier bear.
The Kodiak Brown bear would beat all of these combatants.
the problem is that everyone keep thinking bears are stupid or something, they are very intelligent and not just stronger but they climb trees too and they run about 35 miles an hour and can stay that pace longer than a lion or most cats. So stop saying that cats like tigers are smarter than bears bears are just as smart like me 🙂
black bears can climb trees,brown bears can’t.
I had heard the same thing until today. I just watched a true story of 2 men in Canada called “I Survived.” This grizzly bear went up a tree 35 feet after a man and grabbed his foot to pull him down! (I was looking up facts about grizzly bears which lead to this post.)
This is one of the silliest debates on the internet. The muscles that control the Grizzlies front paws weigh as much as the lion itself. It’s no contest. One swipe from a Grizzlies paws would shatter the spine of the biggest male Lion. Think of this in human terms. It’s why we have weight classes in organized boxing and martial art matches. The best flyweight fighter in the world would stand no chance against a journeyman heavyweight. The heavyweight would simply walk through the smaller mans punches.
Discovery had a show called animal vs animal. They used a Tiger because he outweighs a Lion by 200 pounds. It still wasn’t close. In the simulated battle, the tiger jumps on the back of the grizzly and attempts to kill him with a bite to the neck like they do regular prey. The Bear easily tosses him to the ground and then breaks the Tigers back with a single paw swipe.
It’s beyond funny reading these comments about people being butt hurt as their favorite animal “The Lion” clearly loses the battle…
Lions don’t have uber strong leg muscles like the Tiger, which allow Tigers to stand on it’s hind legs, climb trees even though they are way heavier than Lions and they can swipe their paws at twice the rate than Lions!
Bears are no different!
Bears might be bit slower than Lions and Tigers but they make that up for being outrageously heavy & beefy!
Their paws hold more muscle and strength than that of Lions… Siberian Tigers have the most!
Even the Teeth of the Lions are no where close enough to that of Grizzlys!
In every possible way Grizzly is superior…
It’s not even a fair comparison!
A fair comparison would be a Royal Bengal Tiger vs an African Lion & a Siberian Tiger vs a Grizzly Bear…..
The major strengths of these 3 badass carnivores/omnivores are:-
African Lions – Fight in Prides to rip apart heavy preys like Wild Buffaloes. Has the loudest roar in the animal kingdom.
Grizzly Bear – Super beefy with the massive amount of fat it has in it’s body.(Downside = Requires Hibernation) Paw swipe strength and bite force stronger than African Lions. Lone warriors like the Tigers although slower. Excellent swimmers.
Siberian Tiger – The largest canines & the greatest bite force(carnivorous) in the animal kingdom with the greatest paw swipe strength any carnivorous animal holds. Truly overpowered with Hind Legs so powerful that it can climb up trees. (It’s almost 2 times heavier than the heaviest male African Lions!)
It’s brain is larger than that of an African Lion, hence more intelligent. Can jump longer because of the explosive power in it’s hind legs. Excellent swimmers.
I would say Siberian Tigers = Grizzlys > African Lions
Plus the guy should have kept in mind; the ratings he was giving each and every animal, as viewers would obviously get skeptical over it; just like me.
Those ratings (“Force”) are purely based on those particular animals b/w whom the comparison is being done in that particular post. In that sense, the values will differ for the same animals in different lists.
Guys please do a little more prior research and come back to realistic facts! …
All this coming from one of the biggest Lion King Fanboys as I used to think otherwise!
Facts? What facts are you quoteing? The only fan boy is you, the facts are well on the lions side and not the bears…show me more times bears have killed lions than this:
Bet you cant.
Arun don’t know anything…here even Asian lions were known for killin Siberian tigers from north in winter seasons…and its well documented in indian history with pictures .everyone can search on google..by typing Asian lion were known as killer of Siberia tiger….The most important u forget that lion skull much bigger than tiger..coz lion can open their mouth upto 30 cm while biggest tiger just 20 cm and who say Asian lion 170kg .our national zoological surevy ..mentioned their weight of adult lion 170-250kg ……even the biggest Bengal tiger scull smaller than smallest lion scull
Actually, bear are much faster than people give them credit for. For about 100 yards or so, they can keep up with race horses.
Without actually seeing them fight, I would guess the bigger and stronger bear would won.
A grizzly’s shoulder muscles weigh as much as an entire lion? That’s absurd. In any case, I don’t think anyone argued the point that the lion is as strong. However, the claim that it is as simple as “weight classes” in human fighters is nonsensical to say the least. We’re not talking about two of the same species. A 150 pound man and a 200 pound man are essentially the same, other than weight. Completely different animals have completely different strengths and weaknesses. If weight carried the day, then how are lions able to ever kill buffalo? While it is typically a pride effort, single males have been seen killing buffalo as well. Or if you just want to consider predators, how are tigers able to hunt and kill asian brown bears or crocodiles that substantially outweigh them if all that matters is overall weight?
A Kodiak Grizzly bear would destroy the biggest African male lion or Siberian tiger.They have a huge layer of muscle and fat to protect their internal organs.Added to that their brute strength and powerful paw strength,bite force and added weight would be too much for both lion and tiger to handle.9 times out of 10 the bear grizzly wins over the Siberian tiger.
I always thought tigers where the king until I saw a lion kill a tiger and a trainer that had both animals for years tell that the lion always win. The thick hair around his neck protects him from the lions death grip, the lion refuses to be taken down. He has way more endurance than the tiger. I was shocked. I do not know of any actual fights between a grizzly and a tiger or lion, just smaller black bears. I am from the USA and would love to think a huge grizzly could beat a lion, but after seeing the endurance and strength of a big male lion I would have to say the lion. And for those of you that think male lions cannot hunt, they have to hunt about 2 years on there own after leaving there mother before they join a pride, they can hunt but there job is protection.
I have seen many videos that show lions losing to the siberian tiger but lions win because of the main. Not only that it is saying that the fat of the bear help protect it from a lions swipe. What it don’t mention is that bears fight each other all the time during mating season so that shows that bears do have skills in fighting. Plus where they are at they must fight off wolves and mountain lions at times but no mention of this at all. I think the size of the grizzly alone would beat the lion because it knows how to use it to wrestle not just sit on a lion. bears are great fighters just like lions but you must understand how do tigers fight and bears fight. A tiger usually don’t stand on it’s hind legs to fight another one they pounce and they try biting the neck of their opponents and usually from the back. I seen buffalo kill lions and a giraff and zebra head kick one and kill it too on discovery channel baby lol a bear fights on his hind legs and swipes down why it haves a fierce swipe its the muscle, down swipe, weigh and gravity all working on a swipe to a crush opponents like a lion or even tiger. Also this is wrong I looked up 340 kg to lbs and it is only 940 where many articles I read say 1,000+ lbs so even heavier than what this one is saying. I think a huge bear can beat a huge lion it is possible ; ) and I mean 8 out of 10 times 🙂
Well, it’s hard to resist a female cougar.
It probably was a Bengal tiger rather than a Siberian tiger. Thats would have made things a little different I feel.
If both animals were starving there is no way a lion would take a Grizzly Bear. Think of the way a single bear fights off a pack of wolves. When a bear is hungry they are deadly.
Grizzly bears are simply too big and strong for a lion. It wouldnt be close. The way bears fight it would simply throw a lion like a rag doll.
It takes a lot more to kill a grizzly than it does to kill a lion. Weapon-wise, the bite of a lion is stronger but not by a big margin, and the grizzly’s claws are much more deadly than a lion’s. A lion’s claws are powerful, without a doubt, but they’re often used to grapple onto the prey. The grizzly’s claws are like sharpened meat cleavers. When it comes to hunting, lions are unmatched; but a grizzly (I believe) has the upper-hand here. However, if these two animals were to meet in the wild somehow in a 1 on 1, I think the lion would end up escaping.
Grizzly bite is actually stronger
Yeah (male)lions beat tigers. They dont hunt, or do anything but fight competitors and protect the Pride. They are built for fighting. While the tiger is built for hunting.
A lion won’t beat a tiger. Tigers are killers, lions are wrestlers. A lion’s mane won’t defend him from a tiger’s claw, nor a grizzly bear’s claw. People who say that a lion can beat any of those 2 in a 1v1 have no clue what they’re talking about. In the Roman Empire times, the colosseum fights involving animals, tigers vs lions, the tiger won most times, there are even old paintings depicting tigers on top slain lions in the colosseum.
One could debate that the lion’s agility would give him an edge over the grizzly, which fair enough, he might, it really depends on the individuals fighting, however when it comes to a tiger, a tiger would rip him to shreds.
Loool you obviously don’t know about Siberian tigers, they would make a lion look like a puppy.
I saw one video where a male lion killed a Tiger. I am not sure if the Tiger was female or male. Also I am not sure if it was a Bengal or Siberian Tiger but I would guess it was a Bengal as it looked to be too small to be a Siberian Tiger.
The Tiger attacked the lion. The Zoo keepers had to get a long pole with a loop and drag the poor tiger out of it’s enclosure. The Tiger may still have been alive at that point in time but was not responding to the Zoo keeper throwing a loop over his neck. Very sad video to watch.
http://www.askabiologist.org.uk/answers/viewtopic.php?id=8748 check this link, Lions dominate according to this, but also found alot of tigers winning on other sites .
I’ve never seen a website with such uneducated people. I understand if somebody simply doesn’t know alot about animals, but i am completely baffled when people who dont, choose to comment their opinion despite te fact that they have no idea what theyre talking about. I love tigers, lions, and bears equally, therefore there is no bias in my statements. The fact of the matter is that cats arent built for fighting, cats are built for hunting, cats have lightweight bones, and powerful muscles, and to refute one of the above statements, no, siberian tigers do not have the strongest bite force of any carnivore, saltwater crocodiles hold that title. In fact, the bite forces between lions, tigers and bears are all roughly equal. Anyways, back to my point, cat fights are short, and theyre short for a reason, cats dont like to fight, this is because any injury it may sustain in battle could hinder its hunting abilities. Bears on the other hand, are built for fighting. Male bears go at it for sever minutes at a time, and are able to sustain high levels of impact. Bears have short, dense fur, and loose skin to go along with it. This loose skin ensures that they dont receive any life-threatening wounds when fighting. Bears have the strongest bones in the entire order of Carnivora. Theres dozens of stories online about hunters who shot bears in the skull with high-powered rifles, and to their dismay, the bullet was deflected off of the bears skull. Bears are the strongest animals in the order Carnivora, and they are also some of the most intelligent. Several studies have proven that bears are as intelligent as some of the great apes, look it up. Bears have incredible problem solving skills. And for those of you who want to claim “siberian tigers hint brown bears” , you are correct, however, these are european brown bears, which weigh an average of 250 pounds, less than half the size of a siberian tiger. If a tiger/lion were to come across a bear of equal size, and they fought, the cats wouldnt stand a chance. Here’s why—The cats lack the ability to stand on their hind legs. Yes, tigers can fight sufficiently on their hind legs, but this is only for short periods of time, and its much more of a forward fall than it is a stand. Bears on the other hand, have leg muscles developed to stand without anything else supporting them. This gives them an advantage in a fight with a big cat, because as soon as the cat was no longer able to support itself and dropped back to all fours, the bear would have a clear shot at the cats spine/neck. To continue, a big cat isnt nearly as strong as a kodiak, grizzly, or pilar bear. Their paw swipes would be nothing more than a waste of energy. They wouldnt be able to break, or even bruise the bears thick bones, and even if the claws were lucky enough to break skin, it wouldnt be anything more than a scratch on the bears loose skin, a sufficient injury would be out of the question. Furthermore, bears are alot quicker and more agile than most people would believe. Grizzly bears have been clocked running at 40mph, which is faster than a lions top speed, and nearly as fast as a tigers. Bears may look like fat, lumbering garbage disposals, but they too have fast twitch muscles, easily comparable to those of a big cat, so the whole “speed and agility” argument, is highly disputable. The bottom line is that, dare i repeat myself, cats are built for hunting, and bears are built for fighting. Therefore, when the question being asked is “who would win in a fight?” The answer is obvious, for the above-listed reasons. If the question was asking who the more efficient hunter was, the answer would be the tiger/lion. But when it comes to brawling, the bear has a clear advantage over any felines, and most animals of a comparable size, for that matter, yes, even gorillas. And to the creator of this site, come up with some realistic battles, and do your research before opening your mouth, your crappy excuse of the English language, along with your constant unknowledgable “i think” , “in my opinion” type answers, show that you lack the information and the will to find the information, necessary to running a site like this. Almost every fight scenario ive read, makes absolutely zero sense to me, and your answers are representative of an elementary school child’s. I recommend fixing this if you want this site to reach its truly amazing potential.
Lion is stronger than a grizzly bear crazy
A lion not a Kuga which you people call a lion,breaks a full grown buffalo bull ‘s neck solo African lions are bone fighters and killers grizzlies are nothing but fatties.
Well it’s all about one mans opinion. If you matched them up like took the Grizzly to the Lions home turf or the Lion on over to Mr. Grizzlys hood the home boys would win in most cases. Sometimes the Bear would win and other times the Lion would take it. The Grizzly has the height, weight, and the strength but the Big Cat has the speed. If the Cat could jump on the Bears back he could pretty much rip him up right there. If the Cat went down and the Bear jumped on him I don’t think the Lion would be able to get back up. Even in a neutral war room, it just depends on what type of day each one is having. The winner vs a Great White Shark. But where? Water or land?
They already have, a lot and quite easily. Modern lion skulls are thin enough that one decent blow from a bear will crush it, killing the lion instantly. California settlers during the Gold Rush found this out the cruel way, as they organized fights between bears and various other animals as a rather sick way to pass the time, eventually shipping in African lions in a futile attempt to give the bears a challenge.
Considering lion are use to hunting bovine creatures, this doesn’t surprise me at all. Regardless, a 1000lb grizzly would destroy a lion in any fight. In an enclosed space, the lion is dead. In the wild, the lion runs away. They’re twice the size and can stand on their back legs.
Watch the Alaskan show with the KIlchers. The Grizzlies kill their bulls all the time. They claw into both side of the bull’s back and kind of ride the bull for a bit while they tear into it. The Romans used to have these two creatures fight in the Colosseum, but they didn’t have Grizzlies. I think the Lions and the Black Bears were fairly evenly matched…so since Grizzlies eat black bears… Enough said?
Its happened and the grizzly killed the lion. It was in mexico about 100 years ago. Lion was unable to cut the grizzly deep enough to hit vitals while the grozzly would throw the lion downbreaking it.
realy;;;;; you know ms.M IF the grizzly killed the lion as you say…..that’s not means that she always will wins…..i know because recently in circus male lion killed adult polar bear……wich is much more powerful than grizzly…..even the african buffalo is far more powerful opponet than grizzly…..and also many baffaloes was killed even by lioness
Well, I’m just gonna leave this here: http://www.askabiologist.org.uk/answers/viewtopic.php?id=546
As you see, professional biologists say that the bear will just overpower the lion so…
Oh, yeah I forgot. Polar bear is twice the size of a lion and would easily shred it. Stephen… just stop lying. You know the size difference between a lion and polar bear and lion it’s right here. https://www.google.com/search?q=polar+bear+vs+african+lion+size+comparison&hl=en&site=webhp&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi5uO7_-5rUAhWKxVQKHcjlDrgQ_AUIBigB&biw=1406&bih=816#hl=en&tbm=isch&q=Lion+vs+polar+bear+size&imgrc=Xl_X4ojeGGcYBM:
and a polar bear Would kill a grizzly in 2 minutes
im from africa,,.and if you dont know anything about the mighty beast ie The lion.please dont comment.Thats why we have the lion of juddah.Rather than the bear of judah or the tiger of judah.
You are from Africa Mkay. So, tell me why a 450 Lb Lion doesn’t take on a 12,000 Lb Bull Elephant one on one? King of the jungle my ace.
Lions are my favorite animals by far. There majestic, powerful and against an American grizzly pretty much dead. Male lions has a chance mind you if they get the neck bite. But against the grizzly this will be incredibly difficult. Someone mentioned the lions mane as protection. A grizzly also has protection around the neck as is far stronger. I’d give the lion the edge against tigers etc but not against the grizzly. Grizzlies are very aggressive and will win 88% of the time. Much respect to both.
You keep bringing up fast twitch muscle fibers, you do realize the more fast twitch fibers one possesses the less stamina it would have. Yes it would have a quick powerful blow but it would quickly gas. Hence the reason most fighters in mma or prolonged sports train their bodies to fight slowly and methodically rather than a single quick burst of activity. Lions are built for speed and agility to ambush and chase prey over short distances, have you ever wondered why you don’t see a lion chase a zebra for two or three minutes? Because it would require less muscle mass and the lion wouldn’t be able to bring down the big prey. If you watch those
YouTube Male lion fight videos you see they last only a couple minutes consisting of short bursts of activity followed by long periods of intimidation like roaring or posturing. Not a great tactic for an opponent known for its stamina. However an ambush would be a good tactic for the lion to use, but this is a head on fight unless I misinterpreted the point of this discussion.
Although I do agree that lions do regularly hunt and kill animals that are larger than what the grizzly bear hunts, no lion is doing this by themselves. Male lions are not picking fights with cape buffalo when they are on their own; that would simply be suicide. Nor are they picking fights with any other large prey, such as hippos, elephants, or anything else of that matter. Male lions may have a larger muscle-body mass ratio, but in this case it will not matter near as much than if they had similar weights. Their weights in this situation are not similar; the grizzly bear quite easily outweighs the lion, which is a huge advantage. Their reaction times are not that much faster; they may be faster, but it will not be some massive advantage like the lion seeing the grizzly bear in slow motion. The fighting skill of either is in question, as both possess fighting skill of fighting members of their own species. The lions fighting skill to fight other male lions will not be near as helpful against a grizzly bear, as the grizzly bear fights much different than a male lion. Their weaponry is….the exact same. Except the fact that the grizzly bears weaponry is superior, as they can stand up on their hind legs for stronger swipes, which would easily allow them to crush or cripple a lion. Lions deal with NOTHING that stands up on their hind legs, besides humans. However, a grizzly bear is quite different than a human. The grizzly bear also has nearly double the bite force (psi) of a lion, male or not. Although lion prides must bite through tougher hides while hunting, male lions are not hunting animals with thicker hide than a grizzly bear. A grizzly bear will win a majority of this encounter, as they have all of the necessary tools to succeed against the male lion. Come at me m8
I’d rather see a silver back gorilla vs a grizzly bear, a male african lion would look at any bear as a meal whearas any bear would look at a lion as a threat i mean i would like to think that a grizzly could fight off a lion just like i would like to think a man could fight off a bear but in most cases we would lose without a weapon just like in most cases a bear would lose against a lion. Plus lions inspired thundercats! What did grizzlies inspire care bears , so in the immortal words of Mr.T “i pity the fool” who picked bears for the win
Personally i would like to believe a bear would win. However from videos ive seen it looks like Bears dont really have expeirence going one on one with lethal animals other then other bears. Lions are very agile and strategic with every swipe. A lethal blow from a bear is a game changer but watching the few animal fights ive seen it looks like the lion ovepowered it with speed, fear and lack of hesitation. The lion takes down larfe animal at full speed but mannnnnn. Lets hope it doeant happeb but hell of a fight tho.
The grizzly bear would tear the lion apart and there’s proof dating back hundreds of years back to roman times furthermore there is actual video of a small young Russian brown bear killing a fully grown Siberian tiger which is much larger than the African lion for all doubters out there the bear wins the fight and the tiger submits and runs off but it doesn’t run very far because it dies meanwhile the bear took a swim in a lake nearby this isn’t opinion it’s a fact
So how do you know. You told that 100 years back. In that era , there was no camera
Grizzly bear would win lol
Grizzly would win. They have way stronger bite force, have thicker skin, and have stronger paw swipes with intelligence and stamina on their side.
In the Roman Empire history those people would pit fight the Grizzly Bears against the Lion’s and Tigers in the Coliseum the outcome was if a Lion or the Tigers lasted 2 minutes it was pure luck but the outcome was the same Grizzlies destroyed the big cats ripped the cat’s to shreds . I thought the opposite that the Big Cats would win but nope. 800-1100lbs of Predator vs 450-650lbs of predator no comparison.Hunters said where they came upon a Grizzly kill caribou carcass the ribs were completely broken in half where they Grizzly swipe at the body
That is true, they stopped doing it because it was too one sided and it was very expensive to replace the wasted big cats
Check the Roman Empire history
Yep, that’s why male lions as well as females we most often avoid honey badgers. That’s all I’m gonna say.
Lions have been known to avoid and sometimes be killed by honey badgers. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RlFfo2VhKDc
How will he kill the bear and eat it when the bear has already thrown the lion to the moon? Polar bears can drag beluga whales out of the water, and battles between polar bears are intense. Their claws are hooked, and their flesh is thick. They can run up to 30 mph for moderate times. Their claws are larger than the lions, as well as their bite force. Their canine teeth are around the same size. Their fur is 1-2 inches thick, and that is just the outer coat. This is thicker than the length of the claws of a lion, which is 1 1/2 inches (on a large male). I see no way why the lion would win. In the animal kingdom, animals have respect for larger animals, especially predators. The polar bear is by far the most aggressive bear, and the least likely to back down. Male lions back down to larger male lions, so what reason would a male lion have to not back down to a behemoth, aggressive boar polar bear? Either way, if the male lion attacks the polar bear will rip it to shreds with it’s greater than 2 inch claws. You must not know anything about polar bears. They aren’t dumbster divers; they are expert hunters. They live 6 months in pitch blackness in the harshest place on earth, without hibernating, still hunting prey. Polar bears are some of the toughest creatures on earth, so I’d like to see a male lion try.
It’s extremely funny that you call polar bears overrated, when you are rooting for a lion, the most overrated animal on the face of the planet.
Even with a grizzly bear, look at Alaska. In Alaska, bears have no dumbsters and must fight for dominance in fishing streams, as well as for mates.
Grizzly weighs a lot more, fight goes to the the bear. Lion stands no chance whatsoever.
First of all the King of bears is a Kodiac (which basically is a Grizzly plus 500 lbs )Male Kodiac Bears often exceed 1500 lbs with 6 inch claws .A large Kodiac can run with a racehorse for short bursts and break the back of a 1000 lb bull with a single swipe of its paw (Google Bart the Bear) I dont care what kind of cat your referencing nothing remotely could give a adult male Kodiac a run for its money in any type of fight
African lions are voracious predators, and in the case of such a battle, the lion would almost always win. The bear holds the advantage in terms of size, but the leaner lions are more agile than the fat laden bears….on your point about fights to the death, most of the lion’s battles end in the death of the loser. About the circus and zoo example, you cannot compare a wild lion’s temperament to a captive,… a lion’s day is basically fight fight fight, so wild ones are more honed for a face off against adversaries.
A lion might be leaner but would he use it in a head on fight, most likely not as this isn’t a hunt this is a fight so it would be much more direct, and bears are often though of as slow but that bear could keep pace with the lion and can stand on its hind legs making it difficult for the lion to get anywhere useful
Bears are not built to be apex predators their built to be survivors the only hope a bear has is to to either try and outmuscle the predator who fights like a gladiator(don’t see how his going to get that right) or to try and intimidate the smaller animal(again don’t see it happening 80% of the time as a protective male lion will not stand down to stampeding buffalos or even elephants)…see there’s a reason that lions are named the king of beasts its because unlike North America where competition is not strong and prey are generally small so the bear easily intimidates or overpowers any threat in the area Africs is known as the land of giants and survival of the fittest as competition is strong,prey are powerful and massive and survival is harsh and in a land of bruisen brutes and mighty predators the lion(forget the notion of prides)rule over all it is their instinctive nature to be the apex predator and will not miss a chance to exert this power whether in a pride or as lone male,born to fight,raised to dominate the lion lives in a world of predators larger and stronger than its own kind yet displays such aweinspiring attributes whether in a pride or alone that have the world calling them the mightiest of predators…and I’m sorry but its because of their ability to stand against the opposition that the simple human brain would think heh the bigger one and prevail not doing so like a tiger thinking of the most effecient way to finish off or out manuver its challenger but facing up to the brunt of things see this is why we all believe lions to be overrated a hundred years ago man knew all beast but hailed the lion as the mightyest of them all and not without good reason today we in our world of oversimplification we think it to be the bear because of size but the truth will always be the truth and that’s that the lion as history depicts will always will always win majority of the time and thus keeps its reputation as king of all beasts because of its ability to rule even against the bigger more powerful and unlikely oppostion
Although the Grizzly bear is heavier than the Lion l don’t think it will defeat the Lion always.Lions are built to fight and they can be more aggressive than Grizzly bears.So I think the Lion has a 50/50 chance with the Grizzly,
Its evident you don’t know much of a fully grown grizzly the strength alone would handle a lion easily. Then you add size and intelligence and you got the most dominant animal to walk on land since the dinosaur. Did you know just one swipe from a grizzly could crush the head of a buffalo. Imagine what it would do to a lion head. The stamina of a grizzly is unmatched by any predator. That mean even when the lion try to tuck tail and run from death blows the grizzly unleashes upon him. The grizzly would still chase him down to finish him off ……. If it is the whole pride of lions against one grizzly then the lions win. But one on one the lion don’t have a chance. It would be over in minutes and a grizzly can fight for hours.
You my friend have never seen a grizzly in the wild pissed off. Stop. Youre embarrassing yourself.
So the ussuri bear (BIGGER and stronger Than a grizzly, almost kodiak size) are prayed on by tigers
Ofc a lion Would win, a lion WHOs Only purpose is to FIGHT
Exactly opposite what you claim is true
Well, grizzly and bear biologists/expert state brown/grizzly/kodiaks do not strike but push and grappled and their bite is the main weapon in fighting or hunting,.100s on video on YouTube support that claim…the one hit blow is the biggest bs myth..tons of video of bear baiting on liveleak, where brown bears can’t even manage to break a 60lb dogs back, and other video of where dogs lunge at their neck and bear manages to land nor strike once and breaks nothing ,, if you see bear hunt a hog, that weighs 400lbs , it takes him a long as time to hold and bite it to death. Why would it do that instead of swiping it? Where people get one swipe, break back come from …I don’t know but it is a joke. Actually biological data shows lions have higher bone density in forearms, same or better density as well as bigger skull
And actually strikes in a fight vs push ..and the force of the lion’s strike has been estimated to be By far the strongest blow only second to a whale tail hit…historically, documents have shown exact opposite, lions have killed bear incl. polar, kodiak, brown with their paw swipe where zero cases of bear doing that…also, polar bears by their design are worst fighter as they overheat even in arctic weather and would overheat and die within minutes during Stenous activity in anything else’s but artic weather and their bodies are design to retain heat and many full grown polar bear size have been killed by lions in circuses, manageries. Artifacts and actual roman he indicate barbery lions were found to be most dominant animal which is why so many nations have chosen it as symbol of power…please get out of here with that fake bear swipe that in reality can’t break a 60lb dogs back
An average lion will kill and average bear.
when you mention height of a bear you should mention it also when they stand on hind legs.
Grizzly Bear (74%, 4,677 Votes)
Get smoked Lion.
Kodiak Bear…Kill ya just to look at ya.
lion has agility and speed very sensitive more strategy and brain wise , bear are lazy the hunt small animal , lion hunt buffaloes, bear fight around wolves , hyenas and wide does, wolves , hyenas and wide dog disappear when they see the king , just one male lion they will disappear , bear are bigger buy lazy, who say male lion dont hunt , they do hunt when the female fails to bring down buffaloes just that they dont hunt all the time but they fight all the time , they defend the pride and their Arena , they fight till death . only one male lion all the hyenas , wolves and wide dogs will disappear, just 2 wolves will chase a bear and take his food, bear are lazy and sluggish and slow
Once again,this is one of the silliest arguments on the internets. A 1200 lb+ Kodiak Grizzly will easily dispatch a 450 lb Lion. It’s simple physics. It’s why Humans have weight classes in sports like boxing. All Felines from the house cat to the Bengal tiger use their teeth to kill prey. A Grizzly has 4 inches of hair plus another 6 inches of fat protecting their throat. No feline has teeth that long to penetrate that protection.
Discovery channel had a program called animal face off. They chose a Tiger vs a Grizzly over a Lion because the Tiger typically weighs 250 lbs more. The battle was a walk through. The Tiger jumped on the Bears back and tried to bite his throat. The Bear easily shook him off and then snapped the Tigers spine with a paw slap. The muscles that control the bears paws weigh more than the Lion does in total.
You sound like an old guy set in his own ignorant way, calling everyone “kid” lol
“Rob’s claims of ‘1,800lb’ grizzlies” okay first he said 1,200lb. Maybe you forgot to look through your bifocals while reading, but double check next time you’re arguing against a point. That said, the heaviest Kodiak grizzly ever recorded was over 2,000lbs. Check these links if you’re open to actual facts about these monstrous bears, instead of making your up own info.
You can spend literally 10 seconds finding more solid evidence proving what you’ve been arguing against is actually fact, not fiction. I’m talking about the weight of the Kodiak grizzly, as Rob mentioned, not his other claims.
Actually data of grizzlies are 400-450 from scientific data..koadiak are 600-900 lbs before fattening up for hibernation ..1200 lbs is 800 bear carrying 400 of pure fat reserve which is a disadvantage rather than advantage…like a 200lb human eating so much they weigh 350 and can’t hardly move… adult kodiaks have been killed by lions
.. strength =muscle fiber density/length,, type of fiber,, of focrum points in the bone not size…why a 90lb chimp is stronger than 300lb power lifter….please stop with simple it’s bigger heavier so better arguments…600lb sumo wrestler get destroyed by 180lb mma fighters who has skills in fighting…
one more thing, I have researched power vs weight ratio. The strongest animal on earth using that formula is the dung beetle They can carry over 1000 times their body weight. I think both of us agree a human can easily stomp one and make that beetle a grease spot.
Your lion or tiger isn’t even in the top 10 when it comes to bite force. The polar and grizzly bear make this list.
once again, if you discount the insects, Tigers do win the paw swipe category by average weight. The problem is a kodiak or polar bear would simply absorb the punch. It’s the same thing as a heavy weight boxer walking through the punches of a middle weight. Size matters my man. learn it, love it, live it.
Bears are there own people and so are lions. If they fight and get hurt then the balance will be bad in nature. Food will be harder to be found by everyone and could lead to more widespread problems in general. Leave the animals home.
Guys you need to face the reality.. a lion is no match for a Grizzly bear. The bear will just torn apart lion within few seconds even lion’s hairy shield can’t do a damn thing about it.
If bear chooses to fight toe to toe using his paws then the lion is done for. FOREVER.
Bears are just as smart as tigers and there’s no denying in it. The fair match would be a Kaziranga Tiger vs Grizzly Bear. The Lions does not have forelimbs and backlimbs as heavyli muscled as tiger. If lions are really “fighter’ then why there are only handfull of accounts of lions killing tigers. The larger, heavier and stronger bear will win every time. I knew a account where a Grizzly bear made short work of a Lion and yet you dare to label lion as king of the beasts, How pathetic
Jamea when will you learn? It is a common knowledge the larger animal will win every time. Grizzly possess almost all the advantages, compared to its size grizzly has amazing agility. One strike from grizzly is enough to put so-called king of beasts out of action.
“Natural born killers” seriously! lol. No animal is born to kill, your comment is full of fanciful fanboy rant.
Grizzly’s advantages are more relevant obviously a simple grizzly bear would annihilate a full grown male lion in few seconds if he tried. Rob is right you will never seek knowledge. Because lions don’t have heavy body like bears, stronger bite force, powerful jaws etc. it will be overwhelmed by the sheer size and superior strength of bear.
Ummm I changed my mind, there are accounts of cougars and bears calling out draw so the bigger and stronger lion is expected to put up a good a fight.
But still I think the bear had more chances of winning, obviously because they are far bigger and owes greater strength.
you obviously have no idea about research,
since the sites you linked were just garbage,
like the food of choice for bears, & yourself..
The continued fantasy of the “1500 lb grizzly”,
very few of which have ever existed, & all of which
were hugely obese at that point – fat-as, for sure,
& needed for hibernation – but useless for defending
itself against a true beast killer carnivore, in the lion..
Face facts rob, your “beloved’ fave – is just a fat, juicy feed, for the King..
Fat-as bear can’t defeat the lion, or run away at “45 mph” ( L.O.L..),
& is too fat to even climb – or evade at all, there’s no escaping his fearful fate..
Jams, this is why A biologist would laugh at your ignorance/stupidity. A 1500 lb Polar/Kodiak Brown is not obese. He’s the dominant male at that weight. A puny 450 lb Lion would get crushed.
Btw, what does an animals diet have to do with “superiorority” A 6 ton bull elephant eats nothing but grass and leaves. The same for a Rhino and Hippo. If you think for one second a solitary Lion stands a chance against those three, you need help bro. Take the blinders off man.
Head to head a bear wins easy…lions ambush.. and hunt in pride-packs..so all the arguements are skewed because it would never happen anyway unless we really make it happen..bears dont need to be provoked because the are top preditors, and use much more well rounded hunting tactics..put it this way the bear is the fisherman he lurs the lion the straight over powers him..its like saying humans arent the top preditors…we have brains, siences says bears are more inteligent…yawn
It like saying a lion vs an eliphant..eliphant, bear vs eliphant the elipant wins, size strenth and IQ.. bear >lion, smarter, stronger
According to ancient roman Colosseum fights, circus mishaps and cage fights in Russia and America during the 1800s, its that large male lions who almost always win against Black bears, Grizzely/Brown and even polar bears. It seems the Lion is super willing to engage in combat with other animals and usually rushes the bear head on and bites its neck until the bear gives in. Very rarely does the Bear manage to kill a Male african lion. Tigers also do very well agaisnt bears often killing them the same way the Lion does. And when it comes to Male lions vs Male Tigers the Lions usually win even though the tigers are generally abit heavier. The mane and the fact the lions are generally more willing to fight to the death is what gives them the edge.
Heres the sources.
You think the lion will beat the grizzly… the the tiger will beat the lion… and the bear will beat the tiger. How does that add up?
You know, this truly is silly. Lio has no chance against something 2 or 3 times it’s size. This battle is like harry potter vs percy jackson… lion (harry potter) is gonna get literally annihilated.
Boy, you really like lions. Can I ask you a question? What would win, lion or Asian cow elephant (completely random elephant)?
Do you think a lion alone can beat a Siberian tiger?
Whats not to like? You think a lion can beat a polar bear! Even a grizzly would give a lion a beat down.
Grizzly will have the easy win.
You are correct, Rob.
Perhaps I’ve given you too much credit. You might be ten years old tops.
Actually… now that you think about it… the lion would win. The lion is too agile for the bear, and once he lands a solid bite to the neck, that bear will be running for it’s life. Sure bears are pretty tough… but there not made to fight lions and tigers. They’re meant to fight other bears. So the, I switch sides, lol.
Lol. You actually believed that? It was a joke. Bear wins easily.
To the bear? The huge fat bear over winter hibernation gives any fighting chance to the bear? Lol. You really have to provide me with some facts. Yeah rob defiantly earned the grizzly bear fanboy award. But i’m not a ‘grizzly bear fanboy’ I simply think the bear will win the fight. I mean no offense to your opinion in any way. But if you want to persuade me, please list some facts why the lion will win. By all means the lion would certainly be a formidable opponent, but have you seen the grizzly bears in North America? They’re HUGE. Also in all the historical fights between the two, the bear has won every fight. So there really can’t be a way of the lion winning. No offense, I understand your opinion completely.
To the bear? The huge fat bear over winter hibernation gives any fighting chance to the bear? Lol. You really have to provide me with some facts. Yeah rob defiantly earned the grizzly bear fanboy award. But i’m not a ‘grizzly bear fanboy’ I simply think the bear will win the fight. I mean no offense to your opinion in any way. But if you want to persuade me, please list some facts why the lion will win. By all means the lion would certainly be a formidable opponent, but have you seen the grizzly bears in North America? They’re HUGE. Also in all the historical fights between the two, the bear has won every fight. So there really can’t be a way of the lion winning. No offense, I understand your opinion completely. As for rob… I don’t who told you a bear could beat a FULLY GROWN MALE SIBERIAN TIGER, but that is crazy.
All of your souces are referring to circus type deals where the bear has never seen the wild and fought with other bears and truely be a bear all the bear knows how to do is tricks in those situations that’s not an even fight whatsoever
Yeah, cause a lion could TOTALLY beat a tiger. You insult me for no apparent reason, whatsoever… The grizzly bear won’t just sit there while the lion mauls it. It’s gonna pound it to the ground. This fight would be like Jordan vs Harden. You criticize the bear of being lazy, but they roam around a lot, while lions just sleep and mark their territories all day. Bears aren’t just heavier from fat. I bet you they weigh more than the entire lion just from muscle. So the lazy lion will get beaten easily.
Dude, at leat I don’t insult you in every comment. Check the African lion vs Siberian tiger page. I have proof that the tiger would win in my comments. I have like 15 videos of the tiger showing dominance over the lion. That empire forum is the biggest joke in the world. Mike Tyson wouldn’t punch out Andre the giant, and that is basically the fight: Mike vs Andre: Bear wins easily.
Kodiak Grizzlies grow much bigger than their North American cousins. In fact, the largest bear ever discovered was a Kodiak,not a Polar Bear. This Kodiak stood 13 foot high on it’s hind legs and weighed more than 2300 Lbs. A Lion or tiger would have stood zero chance against that giant.
I’m also not a “Bear Fan Boy”. I actually love Lions and Tigers. I’m also blessed with common sense and have the ability to view unbiased research. The Kodiak/Polar bear is simply too big,too strong,and too powerful for any feline that walks the planet.
The biggest 3 reasons most biologists and myself believe that gives those bears the advantage is as follows
1. Size- That’s obvious
2. Stamina- Bears can fight for hours trying to exert dominance. Felines have lightweight bones built for speed,and quick kills. They tire easily.
I would love for you to name the biologist that you are getting your bear facts from
3. Bone density- The Bear can stand on their hind legs for an indefinite period of time. Lions can’t,and Tigers can only for a few seconds. Standing on their hind legs give the bear an already substantial advantage in a paw force swipe. Bear bones are nearly impossible to break. Feline bones are easily broken. That’s why you never see an experienced lioness approach a Zebra or Wildebeest from behind and go for the leg. One well placed kick,and they suffer a broken leg. That’s a death sentence in nature. Injured hunters starve to death. A standing Kodiak/Polar bear would snap the spine of any feline who lunges toward them.
Brown bear are pretty big.
Average Kodiak bear have you been paying attention at all the Kodiac has been the referenced bear the whole time
..do some actual research..
Lion fore-leg bones are denser/stronger than bear bone..
Another lie. Feline fore leg bones are the most dense ones in their body. They still aren’t as dense as a Bear.
I’ve done plenty of research and so has Tony. That’s why you are getting schooled and being made a fool of.
That is true.
FYI, average brown bear weight..
..is nowhere near “1200lb” – that is a fat-as bear..
I suggest you google Kodiak Grizzly and Polar bear. You are one dumb dude man.
That would be a slow, fat-ass bear. Could never catch a tiger.
Out of all respect, yes, I agree with you a bear will win against a lion. But a tiger would be a far more formidable opponent than a lion. If they go head to head, yes, of course bear wins because he’s so massive. But the tiger won’t go head to head with a giant like that.
Size doesn’t mean everything in the wild. The tiger has plenty of other advantages.
NOOO! You did not just say kodiak bear are bigger than polar bears. Such as? Hmm, strength, speed, intelligence agility, better hunter, HUNT grizzly bears. FYI jaguar is my favorite animal. I admitted a polar bear would deck a tiger, because the size difference is just to much. Polar bears are supposed to be 1,600 pounds. Besides a polar bear is a whole different story than a brown bear, that’s not the fight. It is grizzly bear vs Siberian tiger.
You can try to make a fool of me, but it’s gonna backfire. This is predator vs prey. More often, predator is the winner. Polar bears are larger than kodiak bears. Just because the largest bear ever was a kodiak bear doesn’t mean kodiak are bigger on average.
Can we just say polar bear? T
why? Kodiaks are bigger and better fighters
Tony, Tigers have been know to prey on Kamchatka brown bears which are not true grizzlies. They are docile aand don’t share the same temperment as their North American cousins.
Kamchatcka cubs caught at birth can be raised as family pets. They are skittish because they are heavily hunted. The Russian government charges 50 grand for a permit to kill one. They have for nearly a century. It’s no wonder they live in fear of humans and other large animals
Polar bears and Kodiaks do cross paths during the summer. Polar bears turn away during these confrontations. The reason is the Kodiak has better weapons. Kodiaks have 6 inch claws while the polar bear has 2 inch claws
The Kodiak also has a shorter and more powerful neck. The polar bear has a longer/slimmer neck which allows it to search 4 feet into ice holes. Their paws are built for crushing ice looking for ring seals
You are taking the worlds largest lion against and average bear that’s an unfair match right there as the average male grizzly weights 600 pounds and the average lion at 420 still giving the grizzly a weight height and strength advantage. If you are gonna take the largest of both I’ll put my money on the 1,500 pound grizzly vs your 600 pound lion.
A bear doesn’t use his claws, he uses force so while a metal helmet protects against blades a baseball bat will shatter your skull.
A giraffes center of balence is much higher than that of a bear just like it’s easier to tackle a tall person because the majority of their weight is high off the ground, I’d love to se your lion charge at a bear and move him more than an inch, that’s like running into a brick wall.
Your boss lion would be in a group to take on a lone deer because they aren’t fast enough, then they still have to hunt as a group for bigger prey because the size does matter, a water buffalo will kill your lion one on with any of its appendages or head. Even if the lion got the first pounce, I’ve seen discovery channel you can see a group of lions take down a buffalo but it took 6 lions to get the weakest one in the group the lions got shrugged off and kicked off.
The bears he is referring to have a larger length, head, paws and muscle then the ones you are talking about if it was a fat bear then those would be the same as the ones in your fantasies
What you are referring to is instinct, the bears are clever and figure out how to open your dumpsters, where the best spots are for certain berries and fish, the bears instinct tells him I can catch those fish by grabbing then, you keep saying they are circus animals, they are smart enough to learn these things while your lion is to stupid to learn the simplest tricks
You can’t say a bear wouldn’t stand a chance in Africa and use it as your point, a lion would never stand a chance in Alaska and Canada because it hasn’t evolved there it would starve as like you said there isn’t much prey and they would freeze from lack of fat and fur, even if they had big prey and didn’t die of cold, the lions camouflage wouldn’t work and the prey would see them from far away and get away without a scratch, you can’t put most large animals in a completely different climate and expect them to live they didn’t evolve there and don’t stand a chance
Please tell me how the hell a bear is supposed to hunt in Elefant in America and a lion has to have a lot of help to take on an elefant and they typically only go for the babies because they would get crushed and skewered if they got close to an adult
You are trying to tell me a lion is stronger than a bear, maybe for weight to strength ratio but all in all a bear is many times stronger than a lion
You say they as in a group this is a one on one and the only animal I believe one lion stands a chance against is the giraffe if it can get a lucky hit and knock it down
Your talking about a boss lion vs your everyday tiger if it’s a boss lion that tiger better be just as boss
Oh no a bacterial infection. That would take days or weeks to set in so the entire pride would need to stalk the entire herd of elefants
Orchas also know as killer whales, also known to hunt sharks for sport, also one of the meanest animals in the sea, if it can take a great white shark bit you tigers claws are only gonna piss it off more
Where are these facts of yours all I see is opinions called facts with zero sources
You have major issues man you know those suits k9 trainers wear, that’s the layers of fat the bears have, a lion cannot get through them with teeth or claws you use the bacterial infection as a form of victory, fun fact lions have fought Komodo Dragons and by those stipulations it’s a tie, the Komodo only needs one hit to kill the lion days later from either poison bacterial infection or both, but you won’t admit your pretious lion can lose to a lizard
July 21, 2017
Kamchatka bears are almost the same thing as grizzly bears.
No they are not. Kamchatka Brown bears are docile and non aggressive. That’s not the case with Kodiak and Polar bears
July 21, 2017
The polar bear runs because it’s summer and he’s in no condition to fight.
You do realize a Kodiak hibernates during winter? Come on Tony, you are better than this
Big cats are known to take down prey twice their size
I know this and they take them down with the help of a pride in the Lions case. Tigers also hunt Guars which are docile herbivores. The Kodiak and Polar aren’t docile young man. come on Tony, I know you’re 11 years old, but you can’t be this stupid.
Tony, you are truly a moron. You refuse to do research and I simply have to bash your head into the wall. You have zero sense man. I mean absolute zero
Tony, Siberian Tigers do take Russian brown bears albeit it’s almost always a small female. Seldom even a female with Cubs.
Small females and they have to surprise them to do it.
Polar and Grizzly bears beat the tiger and Lion. If a lion fought a tiger, it depends but the tiger wins most of the time. Anyway this doesn’t really matter that much.
Really? But I thought we agreed that the bear would win against a lion. So, if everything I say is bullshit, then why did we agree on that?
Because you still think a tiger can defeat a Kodiak Grizzly. it ain’t happening young man. Do some research and gain wisdom. That’s all, i’ve asked you to do.
I always knew the Grizzly was going to win!!!
IN MY OPNION THIS BATTLE WOULD BE LIKE BOXERS(LIONS) VS WRESTLEERS(BEARS)…
FOR What i undersstand from documentrys lions are big cats.lion cubes start learning fight from child hood vs each other or hyeans….they eat them selves some times they eat their cubes .
they are really king of the jungle and they
are royal (bears menly behavior) they are very very powerful when they fight hyeans (hyeans can carry 40% of
elephent body with its mouth)
they beat down them easyly but when it comes to bears bears are really overweighted they smash the trees and eat honey very powerfull and they all eat fish yeah thats true…..
i would say that bears would win.but question is here can bears beat 3 hyeans like male lions does?
hyeans are second owner of jungle when it comes night and they eat cruely alive animals i wouldnt think that bears could do it vs hyeans….
after studys it seams bears wins
It’s so hard to say. Those who say to watch a YouTube video between two Grizzlies fighting have a great point.
They can stand on their hind legs and box without getting knocked over by their 1,200 pound opponent. That would be trouble for a cat. It’s an interesting debate nonetheless.
I’d put my money on the grizzly without any hesitation. The author of this article is right. A grizzly would win 9 times out of 10 – if not 10 times. The grizzly is heavier than the lion (average weight of 270 kgs, whereas the average weight of the South African lion is 190 kgs) , and yet incredibly strong and fast. It can even run faster than the Lion (up to 65 kms per hour, whereas a lion can run at 50 or 55 kms per hour). People who have observed grizzlies catching fishes tell us than they are as quick as lightning. A single paw swipe could kill or seriously injure the lion. Also the fat and the thick fur of the grizzly would protect him from the lion’s bites and paw swipes. The stamina of the grizzly is also much greater than that of a lion. The lion would stand no chance. Those who claim that the lion would win don’t know what they’re talking about.
Just saw an actual photo of a Grizzly bears paw on Facebook. The bear was tranquilized. This photo will probably go viral and thus end this debate.
Actually the grizzly bear will win nearly every time against a lion. Most bear species would because lions have very fragile skulls and a hard, well placed blow with a simple stick is enough to kill a lion. Because of the attack method bears use as they stand on their hind legs and swipe at a target with their paw, the lion would not be able to withstand the damage dealt and die from a crushed skull or bleeding, whether internal or external. However, in a fight against a tiger the odds are less certain for the bear. The fight could go either way.
I totally agree with you.
I like how you never provide supporting evidence for the things you say. You just spout nonsense, opinions, and insults to people. It’s funny how you’re acting, really. You’re either a troll or actually stupid.
well you got it wrong the lion has a mane for defense and the bear does not so heres what i think of the battle. the bear bites the lion but its no use and the bear bites again butt its like biting a giant mattress. the bear roars but the lion doest stand down bear bites but no use. the bear has more strangth but he gets tired of bitting a mattress. the lion bites the bears throat breaking the fital core the lion walks in victory. so the bear has more strangth but nature have gave a lion a great gift a big fuzzy mane. the winner is the african lion.
John Castro : Nope. The winner is the grizzly. Always. No doubt about that. Read my comment hereabove.
I am sorry et but tigers are way stronger and more powerful and even smarter at fighting the lion and the mane of the lion is not even thick it is regular fur that won’t do ANYTHING TO STOP THE TIGER
I think the lion would win because they are faster and more fierce than the grizzly bear but also lions most of the time fight in prides and grizzlies fight alone so if they were to meet in the wild the lion would win but one lion on one grizzly grizzly would win.
The fight could go either way. If the Lion can disembowl the Grizzly with it’s claws (difficult task because the Grizzly has a lot of fur and fat to protect it) or if it could go for a neck bite, it would win. However, if the Grizzly lands a solid blow on the Lion’s spine or skull, it would easily win.
The Grizzly is the larger and stronger, while the Lion is faster and more agile. Plus, the Lion’s got a mane that might protect it’s neck.
I might give the edge to the Grizzly because it has the ability to stand on it’s hind legs without any support. This would allow it to get clean blows on the Lion’s skull/spine. However, the fight could go either way.
My cousins live in British Columbia where grizzlys live and they know a person who was hunting and he saw a grizzly bear like 20 feet away and lined up his rifle to the bears head who was getting ready to charge and he shot the bear in the head and the bear was fazed only for a minute or something like that while the bear was dazed he ran away . It turned out that the grizzly survived that. Plus a study by some college in Montana did a study on the small in land grizzlys and they were throwing a 700 pound dumpster easily. Imagine if they were angry and went berserk they could lift soooo much more than 700 ponds. I don’t think a lion could do that. Plus I don’t think that people realize how long a grizzly can run and fight for. There are accounts of grizzlys fighting for days over food before hibernation.
If you look at grizzlies hunting down animals as soon as the animal falls down the bear I’ll just eat it. Doesn’t matter lion or moose bears eat what they want when they want and your oh so precious lion will have to deal with the berserking grizzly
Honestly I feel like AP is the only rational person in our conversation but I’m to damn mad and I’m not going to back down like a berserking grizzly
Well said IAP!
Good post, but about the honey badger – yes, sometimes lions stay away from them, but under normal circumstances a honey badger won’t annoy a lion either b/c the lion is too powerful for a lone honey badger to take down.
Grizzly man is not smart at all he just walked up to some big ass grizzlies and said he was there friends. Bears only will like you if you raised them like Brutus. Same thing goes towards all other apex predators.
I am from California. So I respect the American Grizzly. Grizzlies are the lions of the west. Its Grizzly and wolves vs. Lions and Hyenas. Both are kings of their domain. A lion is not respected for its strength but for its courage and boldness.
That being said, Grizzly bears are simply stronger and they wont want to fight initially. But once they get pissed they will fight to the death. Especially a Grizzly robbed of its cubs. That doesnt take anything away from the Lion. The Lion is not respected for its strength, but for its courage, boldness, and attitude.
Actually, lions are pretty powerful animals. They can break the skull of an buffalo with one paw swipe and drag it’s carcass for several miles (same thing goes for tigers).
That being said, the Grizzly bear has a slight strength advantage over the lion. The fight totally depends upon the individuals.
Also, if you took Physics in high school, you probably learned about Newton’s 2nd law, which states that Force= Mass x Acceleration. The reason the bear is going to have more force behind it’s paw swipe than big cats is because their denser bones give them heavier paws, and along with that, they have decent speed behind the paw swipes.
That being said, the difference in strength won’t be THAT great because, as I have previously mentioned, a single lion or tiger can break a buffalo’s skull with one paw swipe. So strength won’t be a defining factor.
Joubert indeed has more experience in the wild observing animals, but keep in mind that Joubert is NOT a wildlife expert, unlike Saffoe who has spent his life studying animals. In all fairness, both are reliable sources.
One more thing: In overall body strength a lion/tiger is indeed more powerful than a bear. This is because a lion/tiger’s mass is more evenly distributed (a tiger’s mass is more evenly distributed than a lion’s, but both their masses are more evenly distributed than a bear’s). But, in the arms/shoulders area, a bear is more powerful because most of it’s mass is located there.
Meanwhile the Pantanal jaguar laughs at both…
Once again, this is one of the silliest debates on the internet. A 1200+ lbs kodiak grizzly would dispatch any lion within minutes. It is why we humans have weight classes in sports like boxing. A big man would walk through a smaller man’s punches. The muscles which control the bear’s paws weigh more than the lion itself.
Discovery channel had a face off between a bear and a tiger. They chose the tiger because he outweighs the lion by 250 lbs. The battle was a walk through. The tiger jumped on the bear, and the bear crushed the cat’s spine with one paw swipe.
Lets talk about this fight first. Between an African lion and a Grizzly bear, the bear has a better chance of winning because it is a larger, stronger, and more powerful animal. The bear is protected by fur and fat, AND the bear has longer claws, which could most certainly do a lot of damage.
In fact, the “Great Bear Almanac” duly confirms this. There was a fight between an 550 lb African lion and a 700 lb Grizzly bear. Both were males, and both were in their physical primes. The lion took the advantage by leaping 15 feet in the air and pouncing on the bear. The lion immediately went for a throat bite. The lion sunk its canines deep into the bear’s neck. However, the bear was completely unharmed. Why? There was a thick layer of fat under the bear’s fur which protected it’s trachea. The desperate lion hung onto the bear’s neck. However, this only pissed the bear off more, who started squeezing the lion with all its might. When the bear got to a squeezing pressure of 1700 volts, the lion let out a roar of pain. Then the lion got back to the ground, he started circling the bear. Then the lion jumped on the bear again and sunk it’s claws deep inside the bear’s stomach. However, once again, the bear was unharmed, because there was a deep layer of fat which protected it’s internal organs. Eventually, the bear got frustrated, picked up the lion and shaked it like it was a house cat, and threw it against the cage. The lion fainted.
See, the fact of the matter is, the lion is a natural born killer, so it knows where to hit, bite, and strike. But, this does not work out against a pissed off adult grizzly because the bear is many times stronger and has a lot of fur and fat to protect it from the lion’s teeth and claws. And, the fight that I wrote about from the “Great Bear Almanac” backs these claims.
But tigers are a completely different story from lions. The only advantage a lion has in a battle with a tiger is its mane. Tigers possess almost all physical and intellectual advantages. Many people say that Clyde Beatty’s records favor the lion. But Beatty was a fraud. He was arrested for animal cruelty. He used to spray ammonia on his tigers, and Beatty himself admitted that his arena was built in a way which would favor the lions in battle. Plus, Beatty’s lions almost always fought in groups, while tigers went at it solo.
Grizzly bears are too thickly boned/densely muscled, when they swipe and connect with the lion or tigers (who have a much less robust skeletal structure) head, the neck breaks. This is not an opinion, in every single documented case of a male grizzly attacking a lion/tiger, this is the end result. It’s like a house cat fighting a pitbull, I’m sure some are able to scare a pitbull away, but if they fought to the death, that cat would be killed 10/10 times.
I just found this out but teddy roosevelt though of grizzly bears to be the most humble and powerful predator of all and could beat any lion in a fight so a grizzly even more likely beat a lion in a fight.
Yup, you are absolutely right. However, I do believe that a grizzly bear would have an equal chance with a tiger.
Yeah it’s a much more even fight with grizzly and tiger
BUT, I do respect lions, and I believe that they are majestic beasts (I can’t wait for the Lion King live action remake in 2019 🙂 In a tiger vs lion fight, while the tiger certainly has the edge, I do believe that the lion has a fair chance of winning.
I would say that it is 60-40 in favor of the tiger.
I was just looking around about lion vs grizzly.
What do you think about this fight?
Totally agree. It’s like a big house cat against a Newfoundland or some other massive dog. Dogs gonna win.
I wouldn’t say physical strength it’s more of agility. Like it could try to hop on the bears back but the bear could always fallback on top of the lion which could damage it. But it’s like a 70% to 30% in favor of grizzlies in my opinion.
I also somewhat favor the bear, but not by a significant amount. The bear is undoubtly stronger, but do keep in mind that lions are ~60% skeletal muscle – rivaled only by the tiger.
And we have to be careful when saying “grizzly”. An inland city grizzly bear which averages 500-600 lbs, would be an afternoon snack for a lion. But a coastal grizzly, which averages ~1200 lbs, could give the lion a run for it’s money in a straight up fight.
No way that the mountain would go down like that. If you look at what his last name means it roughly means son of a bear. If you take that you will generally find out that his ancestors most likely were berserkirs. That and punching a guy who can deadlift over 1000 pounds punching him in general will hurt.
True – but keep in mind that McGregor was not going all out either.
I don’t follow UFC that much, but I’m putting my money on McGregor.
I am really excited for Brock Lesnar vs Daniel Cormier 🙂
a lions claws is like a knife but a bears claws are like meat tenderizers
the bear would simply wreck the lion
dude pound for pound the real deadliest predator is the crocodile not cats
And that is doubtless why cats always dominate reptiles – even at similar weights.
The fight could go either way,
but the lion has the advantage..
No he probably just gave up
Yeah, I guess you are right.
Recently, lioness who was in the same enclosure with a male lion for 8 years, killed him. That doesn’t say much for a male lion.
To be fair, fights from captivity are not reliable because none of the animals are in healthy conditions.
In a lion vs bear fight, who ever gets the first killer blow shall win.
Well yeah if a killer blow hits either of them they would be killed
Are you saying that to me because I favor the bear in this fight and I think no predator alive can beat a Kodiak or polar bear for sure.
No predator alive?
Hmm… that sounds like an exaggeration.
Lions & tigers do possess the strength & weaponary to take down a Kodiak/Polar bear, you know.
They do have the weaponry to take out one but the Kodiak and polar bears are too large big and strong. Grizzly could beat a lion but is tied with a tiger.
Actually, both a lion & a tiger would beat a grizzly bear because the weight difference is within a 100 pounds (remember, pound for pound, big cats are one of the most powerful animals).
Between a kodiak/polar bear & a lion/tiger, it would be a solid 50-50 (w/perhaps a slight edge to bear), due to the considerable size & strength advantage kodiaks & polars have over there grizzly cousins.
Ap the average weight for an adult grizzly is 600 to 800 pounds the average weight of a lion is 300 to 400 pounds I would call that more than a 100 pound difference.
A lion’s average weight is 400 – 500 pounds, not 300 – 400 pounds. 300 pounds would either be a female or a subadult.
Also, grizzly bears hardly cross 600 lbs. Only coastals might occasionally cross 800 – & even than, most of it’s weight comes from 40% fat.
Even cougars are on record of fighting of grizzlies, so a lion/tiger should not have much problem.
not trying to be a know-it-all
but I searched on google and I found
that coastal male bears regularly reach over 900 pounds
Your link was faulty..
But nevertheless, you have to keep in mind that for 900+ lb grizzlies, most of that weight comes from fat.
That holds true for kodiaks/polars to, but those species are biologically superior to their griz counterparts.
AP the average weight of a male lion is around 420 to narrow it down a bit the average height not including the tail is barely over 6 feet. The females weighs in around 280 pounds and is little under 6 feet long. The average male grizzly is around 670 pounds and is 7-8 feet tall. The female grizzly is almost identical to the size of a male lion.
You have to understand that after a certain point, size is irrelevant.
For inland city bears, 670 is not avg – it is closer to 500.
Coastal grizzlies may cross 900, but ~40% of that weight comes from fat.
The lion/tiger’s skeleton is smaller & lighter by contrast, but most of it’s weight comes from its enormous musculature.
A kodiak/polar bear would be a fairer match up.
AP there is no grizzly that lives in a city they stay as far away from cities as they can. But they will not be afraid to raid a campsite there was a grizzly in Yellowstone that attacked a group of campers at night. AP any bear expert will tell you that Kodiaks often exceed 900 pounds quite often.
Actually, some bears do live near cities – not in cities, but near cities.
Also, I agreed that Kodiaks reach over 900 lbs – it is rare for grizzlies to reach over 900 lbs – that was my point.
AP I’ll agree that grizzlies don’t often get over 900 pounds. But grizzlies don’t live anywhere near cities that’s why there are only around a thousand grizzlies in the lower 48 states of the USA.
Ok, point taken. But why are they called “inland city bears” than?
Because they aren’t never heard that term until now I’ve Alabama called them inland bears
I mean I’ve only heard them called inland grizzlies not in and city grizzlies.
Ok, I see
no offense but I think a paw swipe from a kodiak or polar bear to a big cat would be like an axe to a humans head
Agreed, but the opposite is also true.
yes a bear would feel pain from a lion or tiger
but the bear has very durable skin and fur
also a lot of a bears body mass is muscle and dense bones not fat
AP so your saying a tiger or Lions paw swipe against a polar or grizzly bear is like a person punching a axe. LOL
In case you did not know, lions & tigers are on record of breaking the skulls & necks of buffalo w/paw strikes…
Yeah I know I was just joking around. But a Kodiak for sure is stronger and hits harder.
however, weight is usually power. And the big paws are more powerful.
bu115hit koala is a bear and it will win
October 23, 2018
You have to understand that after a certain point, size is irrelevant.
For inland city bears, 670 is not avg – it is closer to 500.
Coastal grizzlies may cross 900, but ~40% of that weight comes from fat.
The lion/tiger’s skeleton is smaller & lighter by contrast, but most of it’s weight comes from its enormous musculature.
A kodiak/polar bear would be a fairer match up.
October 23, 2018
You have to understand that after a certain point, size is irrelevant.
For inland city bears, 670 is not avg – it is closer to 500.
Coastal grizzlies may cross 900, but ~40% of that weight comes from fat.
The lion/tiger’s skeleton is smaller & lighter by contrast, but most of it’s weight comes from its enormous musculature.
A kodiak/polar bear would be a fairer match up.
Actually, the body fat % for Grizzlies are around 18%. That’s considered healthy for an adult human. Muscle makes
up the vast majority of a Grizzlies. weight.
Actually, AP is not wrong. I read through your link, and nowhere did it say that grizzlies are 18% body fat – unless you are talking about smaller subspecies – like black bears – I find that hard to believe because bears need body fat to stay warm during the winters.
And btw, even 18% body fat – while impressive for humans – is high for big cats. Big cats are less than 10% body fat.
Bro. The thing just said that a grizzly DID beat a lion in a head-to-head battle. It’s obviously possible. Also, bears have thick fur, while lions do not. The lion would have a harder time wounding the bear due to the fur, while the bear doesn’t have the same problem. Also, the bear is more of a heavy hitter, and combined with those massive claws, the lion wouldn’t have much of a chance. Not saying the lion can’t kill the bear. It’s just not very likely.
There is not a tiger or lion of any breed that stands a chance at winning a fight with a healthy adult grizzly. This comparison isnt considering a coastal grizzly either.
Bored california miners in the 19th century imported animals from around the world to fight and the bear ALWAYS won. It turns out the lions skull is too thin and 1 swipe would kill the lion. I cant reference it but I remember reading 2 lions were no match either.
This led into the mid 19th century where it became “bulls vs bears” fighting. This is the reason behind the bull vs bear terms in the stock market and why the bear is on the California flag.
The Bear and the lion run about 35 MPH. But the bear can do it much longer.
I have lived in Africa my whole life and with 100% confidence can I say the lion will win, Lions just like wolves are master hunters and tacticians. There is no way that it will fight a bear head on. It will slowly cripple it with strategically placed attacks and let the bear slowly bleed to death before going in for the kill.
You can check history bear beat lion tiger and bull moose in under 3 minutes. Many such recorded fights. The had them set up a ring with y’all posts so lion and bear couldn’t get out. Then looses the apex predators and bear killed all comers
First of all the biggest brown bear is The Alaskan Brown bear also known as the Kodiak which isn’t a grizzly and is much bigger than a grizzly. Here is smallest to biggest in terms of bears( Black bear, Grizzly, Kodiak Brown, Polar Bear). I have to give it to the Lion if up against a Grizzly but to the Kodiak or Polar bear if up against those two types of bears. Grizzly’s have been known to be taken out by a pack of wolves 4-6 but a lion is more explosive and much faster than a grizzly so I must side with a lion when it comes to the fight.
Wow, i think Bear win lion!
Bro, you think the Indian Guar is docile and easily decapitated!
Bro, you think a brown bear would shred a Siberian tiger!
Bro, you think you is smarter than all of the rest of us!
a small lion can easily rip a bear and a tiger🦁
A fully grown African male lion is not afraid of anything. It will take on a grizzly and probably die from his battle wounds!!!
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